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Watch MSNBC host grill Republican governor about why he signed anti-trans sports activities invoice into regulation

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Ruhle identified to Justice that West Virginia will not be quick on points. For instance, by way of infrastructure, schooling, and its financial system. With so many urgent points, why prioritize a invoice that he can’t cite one particular instance of a associated concern?

Justice dealt with this query by deflecting. “It wasn’t my invoice,” he mentioned, stressing that lawmakers despatched it to him and he signed it. He added that he indicators “a whole bunch of payments, a whole bunch of payments. This isn’t a precedence to me.”

So, if it’s not a precedence to him, and he has no particular examples of trans women creating points by taking part in on women’ sports activities groups in his state, what was his rationale for supporting and signing the invoice into regulation? He referenced his expertise as a coach as his reasoning however, once more, didn’t cite a selected incident in his personal expertise.

“Not your self, your state,” Ruhle clarified when Justice mentioned he didn’t have a private instance himself to share. “Sir,” she continued. “Are you able to give me one instance of a transgender little one making an attempt to get an unfair benefit, only one, in your state? You signed a invoice about it.”

“I coach a lady’s basketball crew and I can let you know, everyone knows what an absolute benefit boys would have taking part in towards women,” Justice said. “We do not want that.” Thoughts you, nobody is suggesting that cisgender boys compete towards cisgender women. We’re speaking about trans women—who’re women—taking part in with and towards cisgender women. It’s transphobic and exclusionary to characterize trans women as boys when they’re basically not. 

Justice, like many different Republicans who’re preventing to maintain trans women on the sidelines, instructed his help of the invoice is about defending women in sports activities. Justice mentioned he signed the invoice as a result of he believes “from the standpoint of a coach, I imagine that women work so arduous to acquire Title IX, and I do not need any thought now why we are attempting to drawback them in collaborating in a sport that they put a lot into.” He additionally repeated that “This isn’t prefer it’s a giant precedence to me.”

Ultimately, Ruhle thanked the governor and inspired him to return again … when he has one thing “past anecdotal emotions as a coach” to share and is ready to “present me proof the place these younger girls are being deprived in your state.”

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